I hear you Crumpet! How about this one?
We are just on the other side of the dirt
OK... but weren't we made in "His image"? So where's that put Him if that attitude is correct?
TJ - iAmCleared2Land
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When sheep eat sheep
by TJ - iAmCleared2Land inanybody who has been "disciplined" in the organization, then made a sincere effort to return, knows that the punishment continues long after the elders have said you're reinstated.
listen to these recent comments by someone still "in", and reflect on how cannabilistic sheep can be.. i got pregnant at 16, and was reproved.
i was very sorry and nine months later the the results of my sin was showing very much so.
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I need someone to talk to..
by littleblueuk ini am really feeling depressed.
my relationship with my jw mother is deteriorating rapidly.
i can't even look at her sometimes.
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TJ - iAmCleared2Land
Littleblue,
I'm very sorry you're going through this. It's obvious you love your sister (and your Mom, even though she's frustrating you with her demands).
I couldn't help thinking two things as I read your post, about your Mom's request. If she expects you to not say anything "negative about the Truth", and to "let your sister make up her own mind", then it's only fair that your mother should agree to likewise say "nothing POSITIVE about the Truth", and "let your sister make up her own mind."
I suggest, if you have the opportunity, of using their own "burning building" illustration on her, kindly. It's one they understand. "If your friend or neighbor's home was on fire, would you just stand by and watch it burn? No!! You'd be compelled by your knowledge to sound a warning, and you'd be morally reprehensible if you didn't!" You have as much of a moral obligation to sound a warning to your sister about what you know, as your Mom thinks she has to share what she thinks she knows.
Hugs to you...
~ TJ
P.S.--Stay here with us... leaving hurts.
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When sheep eat sheep
by TJ - iAmCleared2Land inanybody who has been "disciplined" in the organization, then made a sincere effort to return, knows that the punishment continues long after the elders have said you're reinstated.
listen to these recent comments by someone still "in", and reflect on how cannabilistic sheep can be.. i got pregnant at 16, and was reproved.
i was very sorry and nine months later the the results of my sin was showing very much so.
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"I wanted to die", "I deserved to die"... sad that her "loving discipline" made her feel suicidal.
"What a shame": SHAME ON Sister Bitch of the WT Universe for saying that to this young lady!
"there's a little elder in there": PUKE.
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When sheep eat sheep
by TJ - iAmCleared2Land inanybody who has been "disciplined" in the organization, then made a sincere effort to return, knows that the punishment continues long after the elders have said you're reinstated.
listen to these recent comments by someone still "in", and reflect on how cannabilistic sheep can be.. i got pregnant at 16, and was reproved.
i was very sorry and nine months later the the results of my sin was showing very much so.
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Anybody who has been "disciplined" in the organization, then made a sincere effort to return, knows that the punishment continues long after the elders have said you're reinstated. Listen to these recent comments by someone still "in", and reflect on how cannabilistic sheep can be.
I got pregnant at 16, and was reproved. I was very sorry and nine months later the the results of my sin was showing very much so. It was fresh in everyone elses mind while for me almost 6 months had past since I received Jehovah's forgiveness. Even though I wasnt disfellowshipped, I will never forget what one visiting sister whose husband was going to give the public talk at our congregation told me as I was trying to find a seat. She looked me in the eyes and said 'what a shame'. Even though deep in my heart I know she wasnt reflecting a Christian personality and that I was there at the invitation of Jehovah and not her, it hurt. The congregation in general would not speak to me at all, even the elders. I started to think that maybe I was doing the congregation harm by going to the meetings and thought as soon as I am really on my own, I wont set another foot in a KH. But, everything I read in the bible and in the publications made my mind do an 'about face'. It reminded me of the importance of seeing things Jehovah's way, even though I was suffering reprecussions. I knew better, that Jehovah was disciplining me and that that should have been sufficient. Trust me, it is embarrasing and stressful enough to bear the guilt of a sin. I really wanted to die. I asked Jehovah to keep me humble and I decided in my heart that I had already cheated my son out of a complete family. If I took away his Heavenly Father too, then I really deserved to die. That somber attitude helped me to do Jehovah's will and try my best to be a good example to others. I thought that perhaps I might help others who are or have struggled spiritually to not give up. (Ps 51:13). There was also this one elderly couple in the congregation, graduated from the 1st class of Gilead. He would in his seat motion for me to come to him. He'd put his hand on my tummy with no shame and say 'There is a little elder in there'.. Those words kept me going for years - still. We often hear comments at the meetings that many of the friends would love to meet 'David' in the resurrection. Thats wonderful, but along with all the wonderful things he did, Jehovah forgave him of SEVERAL serious sins. He committed adultery, pre-meditated murder, took an illegal census that caused the deaths of thousands. I cant think of any of our dear reinstated brothers who have been guilty of that much. I have learned to never make it hard for a brother to stay in the truth, if they sin seriously but are repentant, it means they are struggling, genuinely help them. Jesus hung on that stake in agony for hours before he died, and that sacrifice was meant to cover over sins such as these. We are just on the other side of the dirt, but capable of making Jehovah happy. I for one agree that we will never fully understand how good Jehovah is to us. Now my son is 13 and an unbaptized publisher. Im very proud of him, and I know Jehovah is pleased with my decision to stay at his table. TIGHT HUGS for all who made the decision to come back. Dont leave.
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Panhandlers
by TJ - iAmCleared2Land injose and carlos are panhandlers.
they panhandle in different areas of a southern california town.
carlos panhandles just as long as jose but only collects 2 to 3 dollars every day.
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I like Walter the best
Did you see his announcement that he's running for President??
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Panhandlers
by TJ - iAmCleared2Land injose and carlos are panhandlers.
they panhandle in different areas of a southern california town.
carlos panhandles just as long as jose but only collects 2 to 3 dollars every day.
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Cheater cheater punkin eater!
"You racist bastard!"
(LOL... just kidding!!! And if you don't know where that quote came from, you need to get out to YouTube more often. Credit goes to Jeff Dunham and his ventroliquist routine, Achmed the Dead Terrorist, for the above quote).
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How to get a black eye
by TJ - iAmCleared2Land ina pioneer brother showed up for monday morning weekday field service with two black eyes.
his pioneer partner saw it, and said "where'd you get the black eyes?!
"he sighed.
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Is this a personal experience?
Fortunately NOT! :-)
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What's the dumbest thing you've ever heard a JW say?
by Renegade inalot of you maybe stuck for choice so you can say as many as you want.
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TJ - iAmCleared2Land
Dumbest:
Both of these are from the same Circuit Overseer.
1) He was telling us how he was at a Bible study with a sister (he was accompanying her on HER study), and the lady student was a lesbian. He told her she needed to "start coming to the meetings, but she'd have to stop dressing like a dyke first." YES, that's a QUOTE. You should have heard the gasp in the KH. I was serving as an elder at the time, but was already starting my fade. He got a talking to by me about that one. I didn't care if he was pissed off or not. What he said was callous and wrong, both to her, and to repeat it from the platform as if he was proud of it.
2) At the circuit assembly "business meeting" during lunch, he told the elders: "some of the pioneer sisters were wearing ankle bracelets and had multiple piercings in their ears. I call them TRY-A-NEERS, because I don't see why they even try."
Funniest:
Service Meeting part about incidental (informal) Witnessing. Sister raises her hand and starts to mention how they witnessed to the waitress at Hooters... then she stopped suddenly, realizing some would be offended by "Hooters", and said in her perfect Asian accent "BUT WE ONLY GO DARE FOR DA VINGS!!" and handed the microphone back to the brother without finishing her story. Everybody was DYING.....
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Panhandlers
by TJ - iAmCleared2Land injose and carlos are panhandlers.
they panhandle in different areas of a southern california town.
carlos panhandles just as long as jose but only collects 2 to 3 dollars every day.
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I used to be a blond too, and I was never offended by blond jokes either. Wish I could remember some to share with you.
Momz,
That was funny as hell!
TJ
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Panhandlers
by TJ - iAmCleared2Land injose and carlos are panhandlers.
they panhandle in different areas of a southern california town.
carlos panhandles just as long as jose but only collects 2 to 3 dollars every day.
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TJ - iAmCleared2Land
OK... I apologize for any offense I caused to anyone here, including you, 007.
That said, I think you need to learn to take people at their word when they say they're not racist, not come back with "maybe you're not"... but I am truly sorry I offended you.
Now, may I suggest that, since this thread offends you, you go find another to read? I really wouldn't want to get you all worked up... really. And, I'll be more careful about my jokes... really.